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amother
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 10:12 am
My 6 yr old ds started talking with so much chutzpah. Any advice how we should deal with this? Is there someone that I can speak to that can guide us?
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amother
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 10:52 am
At 6 years old your son probably doesn’t realize he’s being chutzpahdik, I would say, that isn’t a respectful way to speak to an adult… and you can explain why…
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amother
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 10:54 am
amother Slategray wrote: | At 6 years old your son probably doesn’t realize he’s being chutzpahdik, I would say, that isn’t a respectful way to speak to an adult… and you can explain why… |
He couldn't care less. He sure does know that he is not speaking nice.
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HeartyAppetite
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 10:56 am
I have the same issue with my 6 year old!
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amother
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 10:56 am
And how do you deal with it?
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HeartyAppetite
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 10:57 am
It’s something new and I don’t know how to deal with it!
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amother
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 11:02 am
My 6 yr old also recently started. I ignore it. No reaction whatsoever. He's looking for that reaction and if I don't give one he realizes he won't get the attention that way. When he speaks nicely and calmly then I'll react extremely positively.
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sushilover
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 11:23 am
"In this house, I only give and I only accept respectful communication"
Step one: Ensure that you yourself follow this rule and only communicate respectfully.
Step two: Look for any underlying physical and emotional triggers. Is he happy in school? Are his siblings bullying him? Is he getting enough sleep/ nutrition? Are there any moments that trigger his behavior?
Step three: Teach respectful communication through role playing, puppets, or books. What is or isn't chutzpah must be spelled out explicitly.
Step four: Spend a good few days "catching" him behaving and clearly labeling his good behavior and giving him rewards. At the same time, when he speaks disrespectfully, remind him of the house rule.
Step five: After a few days or even a week or two of faithfully following step four, go on to "blocking". When he speaks in a disrespectful way, say "try that again more respectfully" or "I cannot respond if you don't speak properly".
Continue to catch him behaving and rewarding sporadically.
Step 6: After a few days of step 5, go on to the warning stage.
"It is disrespectful to throw the books at my head. If you act in a disrespectful way again, you will [insert an age appropriate consequence]."
When chutzpah occurs again that day, follow through immediately in a firm, but not angry way. Ignore any chutzpah that occurs while you are enforcing the consequence.
Continue until the behavior has resolved. Consistently is essential. If a specific consequence isn't having an effect after trying it more than 3 times, then change it. Continue to catch the good moments, label them and reward them. (Doesn't have to be a tangible reward. Can be a hug, extra story, more playtime...).
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 11:43 am
sushilover wrote: | "In this house, I only give and I only accept respectful communication"
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Step five: After a few days or even a week or two of faithfully following step four, go on to "blocking". When he speaks in a disrespectful way, say "try that again more respectfully" or "I cannot respond if you don't speak properly".
Continue to catch him behaving and rewarding sporadically.
Step 6: After a few days of step 5, go on to the warning stage.
"It is disrespectful to throw the books at my head. If you act in a disrespectful way again, you will [insert an age appropriate consequence]."
When chutzpah occurs again that day, follow through immediately in a firm, but not angry way. Ignore any chutzpah that occurs while you are enforcing the consequence.
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I like this post. I think the above quoted is more than enough to address the behavior, without being too overwhelming for mom.
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HeartyAppetite
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 12:09 pm
How would you respond when I ask him to do something and he says I’m not your slave! Or your always bothering me!
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amother
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 12:12 pm
HeartyAppetite wrote: | How would you respond when I ask him to do something and he says I’m not your slave! Or your always bothering me! |
Sounds so familiar just in 6 yr old way on answering.
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BrisketBoss
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 12:13 pm
HeartyAppetite wrote: | How would you respond when I ask him to do something and he says I’m not your slave! |
Agree with him?
Shrug. You can raise helpful kids while respecting their autonomy. Kids like being respected as much as adults do. 6 year olds already are old enough to have a conversation at a separate time to work out how you can both agree to manage housework. Collaboration isn't magic; you will probably need more refinements over time. But kids should have input.
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 12:27 pm
sushilover wrote: | "In this house, I only give and I only accept respectful communication"
Step one: Ensure that you yourself follow this rule and only communicate respectfully.
Step two: Look for any underlying physical and emotional triggers. Is he happy in school? Are his siblings bullying him? Is he getting enough sleep/ nutrition? Are there any moments that trigger his behavior?
Step three: Teach respectful communication through role playing, puppets, or books. What is or isn't chutzpah must be spelled out explicitly.
Step four: Spend a good few days "catching" him behaving and clearly labeling his good behavior and giving him rewards. At the same time, when he speaks disrespectfully, remind him of the house rule.
Step five: After a few days or even a week or two of faithfully following step four, go on to "blocking". When he speaks in a disrespectful way, say "try that again more respectfully" or "I cannot respond if you don't speak properly".
Continue to catch him behaving and rewarding sporadically.
Step 6: After a few days of step 5, go on to the warning stage.
"It is disrespectful to throw the books at my head. If you act in a disrespectful way again, you will [insert an age appropriate consequence]."
When chutzpah occurs again that day, follow through immediately in a firm, but not angry way. Ignore any chutzpah that occurs while you are enforcing the consequence.
Continue until the behavior has resolved. Consistently is essential. If a specific consequence isn't having an effect after trying it more than 3 times, then change it. Continue to catch the good moments, label them and reward them. (Doesn't have to be a tangible reward. Can be a hug, extra story, more playtime...). |
This is excellent advice
I was just going to say that I would look them in the eye and say in a very calm , deadpan, broken record type of voice
“That was not a respectful way to speak. please rephrase it.”
Repeat as often as necessary, in a completely emotionless way
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cbg
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 12:33 pm
HeartyAppetite wrote: | How would you respond when I ask him to do something and he says I’m not your slave! Or your always bothering me! |
This is a family and we do for each other because that’s what family does.
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#BestBubby
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 3:44 pm
HeartyAppetite wrote: | How would you respond when I ask him to do something and he says I’m not your slave! Or your always bothering me! |
Say: OK, but Mommy is not your slave either.
If you choose not to help,
Mommy does not have to give you any nosh, any dessert,
buy you toys, take you to the park, let you have a friend come over or read you stories.
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#BestBubby
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 3:45 pm
I never heard it, but a Therapist, Yael Respler, made a tape or video called "Chutzpah is Muktzah"
There are picture books about Kibbud Av V'Eim.
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#BestBubby
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 3:48 pm
If child says something very rude like "Crazy" or "Stupid"
he should be sent to his room for a long time-out.
If he just demands things without saying "please"
Say: "Please, say that again, asking nicely."
Or you say it and ask him to repeat: "Mommy, can I please have _____?"
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amother
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 3:48 pm
#BestBubby wrote: | If child says something very rude like "Crazy" or "Stupid"
he should be sent to his room for a long time-out.
If he just demands things without saying "please"
Say: "Please, say that again, asking nicely."
Or you say it and ask him to repeat: "Mommy, can I please have _____?" |
What what if he comes out of his room a minute later?
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#BestBubby
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Mon, Feb 27 2023, 3:51 pm
You can put a lock on the outside of the door - like a hook lock.
Or you can do a different consequence like take away favorite toy, no dessert
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