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Why do some people pronounce it Bar Yo-choo-ee



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amother
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Post Sun, May 26 2024, 9:30 am
If there is a kametz under the ches and a yud afterwards, doesn't the sound change to chai? It should be Bar Yochai.

I think about this every year and wonder if there's a reason for it.
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amother
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Post Sun, May 26 2024, 9:31 am
It's chassidish havara
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amother
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Post Sun, May 26 2024, 9:32 am
It goes with the rhythm of the songs
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amother
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Post Sun, May 26 2024, 9:42 am
amother Coffee wrote:
It's chassidish havara
I'm not talking about havara. I know chassidish havara.
I'm talking about the rules of kriah.
Even in chassidish havara, if a yud follows a kamatz, the sound changes to "oy".
Maybe this is different because there's an aleph in between.
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amother
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Post Sun, May 26 2024, 9:49 am
I'm seeing that some versions have a kamatz and some have a pasach under the ches.

I thought there may be a kabbalistic reason why they pronounce it differently, similar to Yisachar/Yisaschar. Anyone know?
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amother
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Post Sun, May 26 2024, 10:45 am
It's יוחאי with an aleph betwen the ches and the yud so it isn't chai. It's cho-ee
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