Imamothes please identify ur 'sector'..

watergirl

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 6:54 am

amother wrote:

Chassidish is no longer one category so I can't vote.
I'm neutral/lite chassidish, and I don't think you meant me when you gave the option of chassidish. We don't shave our hair, we get college degrees, we drive. But our men wear chassidish levush, we have a rebbe, we send to chassidish oriented schools(as long as they have a good English curriculum). We value learning very much, so maybe we have some yeshivishness too, so confusing. Oh and I don't care till what age anyone wears pants. As long as you're happy I'm happy.

This seems to be my soapbox lately. It seems to me that you ARE chassidish in all the ways that it matters. You have a rebbe. You teach and believe in the derech of chassidus. The avodah is what makes one a chassid/a. Not the outer cultural things. Those make someone culturally chassidish; is that a whole kther category? Only 1 category needs to be listed. If one has chassidus in her heart, she is chassidish.

amother

White

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 7:28 am

chanchy123 wrote:

Just curious, what group did you belong to while you were frum? Did you go through a phase of changing groups?

I was lubavitch, tried modern orthodoxy, realised it had nothing to do with what I did physically but that I simply don't believe in God or Torah in any way.

amother

Taupe

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 10:41 am

amother wrote:

I don't either shave.... It's called quasi chasidish. And neutral in my dictionary meant you are satmar but you don't want to admit it.

Your dictionary is flawed.

-neutral chassidish, doesnt shave, no connection to satmar at all. my family has had no rebbe since after world war two

SixOfWands

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 10:46 am

SuperWify wrote:

SNIP
I am MO because of the respect I have for my friends, SNIP

WADR, I don't think that respect for friends is a MO trait. Its a good person trait. And plenty of Yeshivish and Litvish and Chasidic -- and MO, of course -- and every other flavor or Jew are good people.

crust

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 10:51 am

SixOfWands wrote:

Thanks for saying this. It tastes better to hear it from someone else than myself. Smile

mommy3b2c

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 10:57 am

amother wrote:

I was lubavitch, tried modern orthodoxy, realised it had nothing to do with what I did physically but that I simply don't believe in God or Torah in any way.

I’m sorry to hear that. And G-d believes in you and loves you anyway.

amother

White

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 11:00 am

mommy3b2c wrote:

I’m sorry to hear that. And G-d believes in you and loves you anyway.

No offence but hearing that makes me simultaneously giggle as it's funny/ ridiculous and want to vomit! But thanks for the sentiment. I'm not upset. I feel like me and I'm happy and my family's happy.

amother

Blue

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 11:01 am

amother wrote:

Ima White - perhaps its time to give up your membership to this forum.

mommy3b2c

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 11:07 am

amother wrote:

No offense taken. Your response made me feel like giggling and wanting to vomit simultaneously too!😀 We have so much in common!!! And I’m happy that you’re happy!! I’m happy too! May G-d bless you that you should always be happy!

amother

White

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 11:20 am

mommy3b2c wrote:

I'm sure we've got lots in common. I'm currently juggling cooking, dealing with toddlers, on imamother, have a cold, thinking of going for a run, waiting for after bed time to chill. I'm sure there's something in there we've got in common too. Happy that we've got tge giggling and vomiting in common too (as long as I don't actually vomit I'm good-I don't much care for vomit!)

amother

White

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 11:21 am

amother wrote:

Ima Wine - perhaps its time to give up your membership to this forum.

I love that you didn't have the guts to write that under your sn but do you know what. If yael sees this and asks for me to leave I will.

Metukah

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 12:10 pm

amother wrote:

I voted chassidish, I definitely consider myself chassidish and nothing else. We don't shave our hair, we get college degrees, we drive. But our men wear chassidish levush, we have a rebbe (copied from your post, cbb retyping). We don't even send our kids to chassidish schools. Just regular neutral schools.
Why would you think op didn't mean you when she said chassidish. She didn't specify what chassidus and just because some of the big chassidus have minhagim like those you mentioned above that does not mean that is makes one chassidish. Not at all.

Op I think you should add lubavitch (although it is a chassidus, it is not part of people usually consider chassidish) and maybe something like 'heimish' for those that are neither chassidish nor litvish and are not yeshivish either.

mommy3b2c

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 12:16 pm

Metukah wrote:

I voted other, but if she added heimish I would choose that.

Metukah

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 1:04 pm

Metukah wrote:

Oh and I forgot to add, my father does not wear the chassidish levush, does not have any specific chassidus or rebbe, but he is definitely chassidish, that is what he calls himself and wouldn't have it any other way.

A chossid is someone who follows the ways and teachings of the baal shem Tov. That is it. Shaving/driving/double head covering, all not from the besht, but directions of leaders who followed the besht. So me driving and not shaving does not make me any less chassidish than someone who does.

SpottedBanana

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 1:16 pm

amother wrote:

I was lubavitch, tried modern orthodoxy, realised it had nothing to do with what I did physically but that I simply don't believe in God or Torah in any way.

Under my screenname -- I wish you much clarity in your life, but this forum is meant for frum women and I, for one, am still operating on Imamother as if all the amothers giving me advice are frum women. Maybe I am naive to believe that, but I would like to make it as true as possible.

amother

Azure

Mon, Dec 04 2017, 1:39 pm

amother wrote:

I don't either shave.... It's called quasi chasidish. And neutral in my dictionary meant you are satmar but you don't want to admit it.

Huh

How can someone be Satmar and neutral. Isn't that like an oxymoron.

Although we did gravitate towards Chassidus more than towards Yeshivish, we certainly have no interest in Satmar, as much as we respect them and are in awe of their Chesed.