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allthingsblue




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 3:59 pm
Sequoia, please explain!
I read Harry Potter and I am a voracious reader, and a good one if I may say so myself.
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seeker




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 4:11 pm
I've seen it turn kids from non-readers into motivated readers, so there's that.
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amother
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Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 4:22 pm
I guess I missed the original thread. Why would it?
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Iymnok




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 4:33 pm
It started my sister. The rest of us were avid readers before HP came out. She read what she had to for school. Then Harry
Potter #4 came out with tons of hype. She read 1-3 then #4. She started reading other things as well.
(If it matters we didn’t have a tv and rarely watched videos)
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little neshamala




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 4:48 pm
WHAT! NOOOOOOOOOO! Harry potter is absolute awesomeness. End of story.
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sequoia




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 5:28 pm
Okay.

It’s totally motivating to comment when everyone is mad at you in advance.
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allthingsblue




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 5:30 pm
I'm not mad- I am curious
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sequoia




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 5:34 pm
Well, I also love Harry Potter.

But my view of good children’s literature doesn’t include it.
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Ravenclaw




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 5:43 pm
Sequoia, my friend also hates Harry Potter. Okay, not hates, but she did explain to me all the reasons she thinks the hype is overkill.
A lot of inconsistencies in the book.
I want to hear what you have to say.
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Ravenclaw




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 5:44 pm
I think Okay for Now by Gary D. Schmidt is one of the most well written children’s books I have ever read.
And almost no one has heard of it.
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ectomorph




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 5:45 pm
I love Harry Potter but I think it makes lazy readers

in the sense that people read Harry Potter and they think that they are done reading

Tons of Millennials can only quote references from Harry Potter
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PinkFridge




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 5:48 pm
sequoia wrote:
Okay.

It’s totally motivating to comment when everyone is mad at you in advance.


I'm not mad. I'm intrigued. I'm probably also one of the handful of people who've never read any of them.
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little neshamala




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 5:52 pm
ectomorph wrote:
I love Harry Potter but I think it makes lazy readers

in the sense that people read Harry Potter and they think that they are done reading

Tons of Millennials can only quote references from Harry Potter


Lol, thats funny. I may be one of those millenials-but I am a HUGE bookworm, and I read anything I can get my hands on. But the only thing I quote is harry potter. (Alas! Earwax.)
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amother
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Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 5:55 pm
I'm just remembering arguing with my 7th grade teacher about why Harry Potter should be considered a classic. I'm cringing now at how sure of myself I was...

I was very into Harry Potter at that age.
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watergirl




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 5:57 pm
Harry Potter turna kids into readers.
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SixOfWands




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 5:59 pm
sequoia wrote:
Well, I also love Harry Potter.

But my view of good children’s literature doesn’t include it.


But do kids need to read only "good children's literature"? I certainly don't only read good [adult] literature.
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amother
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Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 6:01 pm
My very chassidish dad made us read Harry Potter and it got even his most uninterested kids start reading English. It was more effective than all their years in school. So that's a huge deal.
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librarygirl




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 6:10 pm
Ravenclaw wrote:
I think Okay for Now by Gary D. Schmidt is one of the most well written children’s books I have ever read.
And almost no one has heard of it.


I thought the Wednesday wars was a much better book. Okay for now was very unrealistic.
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sequoia




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 6:12 pm
Lazy readers is a good way to put it.

Encouraged to be self-centered is another complaint.

Good books take us out of ourselves entirely, broaden and expand our horizons, and develop our imaginative empathy. HP creates a convenient world where we can mentally place ourselves just as we are. Which house of Hogwarts? That sort of thing.

Here is an excellent quote of CS Lewis to sum up:

“The pleasure here was, in the proper sense, mere wish-fulfilment and fantasy; one enjoyed vicariously the triumphs of the hero. When the boy passes from nursery literature to school-stories he is going down, not up. Peter Rabbit pleases a disinterested imagination, for the child does not want to be a rabbit, though he may like pretending to be a rabbit as he may later like acting Hamlet; but the story of the unpromising boy who became captain of the First Eleven exists precisely to feed his real ambitions.”
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little neshamala




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Jan 22 2019, 6:53 pm
sequoia wrote:

Encouraged to be self-centered is another complaint.

Good books take us out of ourselves entirely, broaden and expand our horizons, and develop our imaginative empathy. HP creates a convenient world where we can mentally place ourselves just as we are. Which house of Hogwarts? That sort of thing.



Um. Have we read the same Harry Potter? The one I read taught me about MUCH greater concepts... the immense power that truly loving someone can have, about sacrificing whats best for you so that others may have whats best for them (Harry being ready to die for everyone is the exact antithesis of selfish), about true loyalty among friends, having faith in those you trust even when it seems like it doesnt make sense, being able to look beyond the external "house" that divides, and accepting people for who they are underneath, having the courage to admit you were wrong about someone...I can go on and on...there were so many heavy concepts....and it was all so incredibly real to me.
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