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amother




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Post  Sat, Oct 17 2020, 4:30 pm
https://www.theyeshivaworld.co......html

Ha Gaon Rav Moshe Sternbuch, Av Beith Din of the Eida Charedit announced already in March that it was an inyan of Pikuach Nefesh to avoid transmitting Covid19 and to respect health ministry restrictions.
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DrMom




 
 
 
 

Post  Sat, Oct 17 2020, 4:50 pm
Sounds reasonable to me.
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ChanieMommy




 
 
 
 

Post  Sat, Oct 17 2020, 8:36 pm
To me too...
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amother




Ecru
 

Post  Sat, Oct 17 2020, 8:38 pm
Do you follow all his directions/guidance/psaks?
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ChanieMommy




 
 
 
 

Post  Sat, Oct 17 2020, 9:18 pm
No, I don't, he is not my rov, I am MO...

But he sounds like a voice of reason in the cacophonia of covid-deniers...
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Mothers




 
 
 
 

Post  Sat, Oct 17 2020, 10:56 pm
ChanieMommy wrote:
No, I don't, he is not my rov, I am MO...

But he sounds like a voice of reason in the cacophonia of covid-deniers...


https://matzav.com/powerful-ps.....nyan/
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DrMom




 
 
 
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 1:41 am
amother [ Ecru ] wrote:
Do you follow all his directions/guidance/psaks?

Nope, not my rav/not my community.

But I agree with him on this particular point.

Not so on his ruling that the community should take retribution on people reporting covid violations.
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amother




Purple
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 1:45 am
So, if he said it's pikuach nefesh, to stay away so not to infect others, why is he coming down hard now on people reporting those not complying? It's the same pikuach nefesh. Places/people that dont comply are infecting innocent people, some of which will die.
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trixx




 
 
 
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 1:45 am
Shame on him for furthering the fear and shutting down Torah learning. One thing covid is good for, showing us who the real leaders are.
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amother




Pearl
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 1:52 am
Uch, Im so sick hearing of more rabbis coming out now with what to do. We are already 8 months into this, and many people kept SD, and still got sick. So now what?? Go live in a cage on a remote island?

We see how listening to the govt. did nothing for us. Besides causing more anxiety. We had our schools closed, we wore the (stupid useless mask), and now they continue controlling us....its never ending..

Do the rabbis also follow politics? Do you realize where this is taking us? We have to follow a corrupt govt like blind sheep!
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amother




Pearl
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 1:56 am
amother [ Purple ] wrote:
So, if he said it's pikuach nefesh, to stay away so not to infect others, why is he coming down hard now on people reporting those not complying? It's the same pikuach nefesh. Places/people that dont comply are infecting innocent people, some of which will die.


No. We cant control a world full of people. Are you gonna report the hispanic/muslim/haitian person thats not complying? Why is it important to report your jewish neighbor??

People are not dying because of compliance or not. Last I checked G-d is in charge of that. Lets stop predicting who will die from what..
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amother




cornflower
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 3:15 am
None of you noticed that the ywn article is dated March 19?????
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DrMom




 
 
 
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 3:17 am
amother [ cornflower ] wrote:
None of you noticed that the ywn article is dated March 19?????

Yes, but there is still a pandemic going on, so it is still relevant.

Does his psak have an expiration date?
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shabbatiscoming




 
 
 
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 3:50 am
trixx wrote:
Shame on him for furthering the fear and shutting down Torah learning. One thing covid is good for, showing us who the real leaders are.
Furthering the fear? Shutting dow torah learning? Here in Israel there has been a lock down and schools, yeshivot etc have been closed since before Rosh hashana. He is not the one who is shutting anything down. its the government.
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ChanieMommy




 
 
 
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 4:01 am
amother [ Purple ] wrote:
So, if he said it's pikuach nefesh, to stay away so not to infect others, why is he coming down hard now on people reporting those not complying? It's the same pikuach nefesh. Places/people that dont comply are infecting innocent people, some of which will die.


I slightly suspect that he was misquoted or taken out of context on this "mosser" thing...

somehow it does not square with his general attitude...


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imasoftov




 
 
 
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 4:01 am
trixx wrote:
Shame on him for furthering the fear and shutting down Torah learning. One thing covid is good for, showing us who the real leaders are.

OK, who are they?
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amother




OP
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 4:11 am
imasoftov wrote:
OK, who are they?


Those who are playing with people's lives?
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amother




OP
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 4:18 am
trixx wrote:
Shame on him for furthering the fear and shutting down Torah learning. One thing covid is good for, showing us who the real leaders are.


I think it is good that a leader of the Eida charedit has understood how serious this disease can be...

I can't understand any frum jew who would play with the lives of vulnerable people...

Just now I learned that a great talmid chacham I knew personally died from Covid 19...

Why?
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amother




Violet
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 4:19 am
OP, if you're already posting (old) YWN articles why didnt you post this one?

https://www.theyeshivaworld.co......html
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shabbatiscoming




 
 
 
 

Post  Sun, Oct 18 2020, 4:22 am
amother [ Violet ] wrote:
OP, if you're already posting (old) YWN articles why didnt you post this one?

https://www.theyeshivaworld.co......html
How is this old? its from yesterday.
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