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amother




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Post Wed, Apr 07 2021, 10:21 pm
DH and I recently started listening to top hits in Israel on our Apple music and it just got me wondering how Israeli music works in terms of frum/non frum culture in Israel. I have a bunch of questions!

I assume there are chareidi only/dati music radio stations(?) Are the most requested songs on those stations included in the Israel Top 50 or is that audience not large enough to break the top 50 or 30 or whatever songs?

Are dati singers played on mainstream radio? Hanan Ben-Ari, for example, has songs currently in the Top Songs list so I assume so?

I'm not always great at understanding songs unless I Google them. Is there usually a different sound in the religious vs not religious music or not really? I mean I assume the song about the woman full of diamonds isn't particularly religious, but a lot of the songs sound mizrachi, and I wouldn't know. Do you usually know when listening?

Are there any popular dati female singers who would be on such a list in Israel or not really?

Anything else you think I should know as I embark on my Israeli music journey?
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amother




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Post Thu, Apr 08 2021, 12:43 am
The dati radio stations play totally different music than the secular ones. For starters, no women, which is huge.
Most dati stations play music that is very Ashkenazi or very Mizrachi, with a clear frum message. They will play some of the dati singers who are popular with the secular audiences (like chanan ben ari) but not as a regular or common thing.

Just like the charedi stations don't play the top requested songs from secular radio, neither does the secular radio play the top requested songs from charedi stations. This is not what the audience wants to hear. You also don't have popular Ethiopian songs or Russian songs or Arabic songs on mainstream secular radio.
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amother




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Post Thu, Apr 08 2021, 12:50 am
To add - you asked if dati singers are played on mainstream radio. Of course. Lots of them. However, they create music that is geared for mixed audiences. Their texts speak to a secular audience too. In fact , that is usually their main audience.

Most of the songs on charedi stations do not appeal to the secular - not the texts, and not the style. So there is not much overlap. The dati singers who are popular on secular radio are usually not played that often on charedi radio.
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Rappel




 
 
 
 

Post Thu, Apr 08 2021, 12:55 am
My two favourite dati/haredi radio stations are Kol Hai and Moreshet.

Before I started stopping listening to secular music, Galgalatz was a great station to listen to for pop.

There is some popularity crossover. For example, Omer Adam is an Israeli pop superstar who was chozer beteshuva. היא רק רוצה לרקוד is never going to appear on Kol Hai, but מודה אני might.
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DrMom




 
 
 
 

Post Thu, Apr 08 2021, 1:22 am
As a side note, I find secular Israeli pop music to be very interesting, and far far less vulgar and coarse than American pop music.
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amother




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Post Thu, Apr 08 2021, 2:42 am
Rappel wrote:
My two favourite dati/haredi radio stations are Kol Hai and Moreshet.

Before I started stopping listening to secular music, Galgalatz was a great station to listen to for pop.

There is some popularity crossover. For example, Omer Adam is an Israeli pop superstar who was chozer beteshuva. היא רק רוצה לרקוד is never going to appear on Kol Hai, but מודה אני might.
Where did you hear that Omer Adam is a chozer b'tshuva?
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amother




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Post Thu, Apr 08 2021, 2:46 am
amother [ Slateblue ] wrote:
Where did you hear that Omer Adam is a chozer b'tshuva?


I doubt he is a BT. There have been rumors for a while that he is becoming closer to religion, מתחזק. But still not what I would call a BT, not last I saw anyway.
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chanchy123




 
 
 
 

Post Thu, Apr 08 2021, 2:52 am
amother [ Slateblue ] wrote:
Where did you hear that Omer Adam is a chozer b'tshuva?

He’s not, but he does sing a few very Judaic traditional oriented songs likeמודה אני and יום השישי.
There is an overlap between popular dati singers and secular pop culture. Hanan ben Ari Yishai Ribo, and Akiva are popular in both worlds. Obviously, not all their songs work in both crowds.
A lot of the mizrahi very popular singers are traditional and also sing songs with more Jewish are faith themes, many times they also won’t perform on Shabbat even if they don’t completely keep Shabbat. They will perform in Jewish frameworks and with religious singers and frum events like during Elul doing selichot events. Even female singers like Sarit Haddad do women’s shows (she does an an annual show on Hevron).
Narkis is a frum singer who covers her hair and is doing very well for herself on secular platforms. Many of her songs also have Jewish themes. Check this one out: https://youtu.be/P2yhLf848zY
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amother




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Post Thu, Apr 08 2021, 2:55 am
chanchy123 wrote:
He’s not, but he does sing a few very Judaic traditional oriented songs likeמודה אני and יום השישי.
Thank you. I didnt think so either, but hey, you never know.
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Iymnok




 
 
 
 

Post Thu, Apr 08 2021, 5:34 am
My neighbor, Yonatan Raziel is apparently popular across the spectrum. He is chareidi.
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