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amother
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Tue, Nov 10 2020, 11:59 am
Is it assur for a woman to wear a man's black hat as part of a costume? (Rest of the costume isn't men's clothes)
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amother
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Tue, Nov 10 2020, 12:02 pm
No.
Begged ish is only an article of clothing that is specifically a man thing.
A hat is unisex. It doesn’t matter if it belongs to a man.
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amother
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Tue, Nov 10 2020, 12:06 pm
amother [ Forestgreen ] wrote: | No.
Begged ish is only an article of clothing that is specifically a man thing.
A hat is unisex. It doesn’t matter if it belongs to a man. |
Even though only men wear borsalino style hats?
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amother
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Tue, Nov 10 2020, 12:09 pm
amother [ Firebrick ] wrote: | Even though only men wear borsalino style hats? |
Only the men YOU see wear borsalino style hats. Borsalino has a women’s line.
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amother
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Tue, Nov 10 2020, 12:11 pm
The fedora originated as a style for women. Men adopted it. The better question is whether men should be allowed to wear fedoras.
It's definitely a style that women can wear.
I copied these paragraphs from Wikipedia:
The term fedora was in use as early as 1891. Its popularity soared, and eventually it eclipsed the similar-looking homburg.[2] The word fedora comes from the title of an 1882 play by dramatist Victorien Sardou, Fédora, which was written for Sarah Bernhardt.[10] The play was first performed in the United States in 1889. Bernhardt played Princess Fédora Romanov, the heroine of the play. During the play, Bernhardt – a noted cross-dresser – wore a center-creased, soft brimmed hat. The hat was fashionable for women, and the women's rights movement adopted it as a symbol.[11][12] After Edward, Prince of Wales started wearing them in 1924, it became popular among men for its stylishness and its ability to protect the wearer's head from the wind and weather.[11][12] Since the early part of the 20th century, many Haredi and other Orthodox Jews have made black fedoras normal to their daily wear.[13]
Women and fedoras
In the 1880s, French stage actress Sarah Bernhardt popularized the fedora for the female audience. It soon became a common fashion accessory for many women, especially among activists fighting for gender equality during the late nineteenth century.[16] The fedora was eventually adopted as a defining symbol of the women's rights movement. It would not be until 1924 when, in Britain, the fashion minded Prince Edward started wearing the felt hat. This event shifted the popularity of the fedora over to men's fashion, making the hat one of the few androgynous clothing pieces.[17]
To this day, fedoras continue to be worn by women, however, not quite to the same extent as they once were in the early twentieth century. Women's fedoras vary in form, texture, and color. In addition, these fedoras come in almost every color from basic black to bright red and even in the occasional animal print.[18] Along with men's felt hats, women's fedoras are making a comeback in current fashion trends. Baseball caps, which have in recent years been the staple of headwear, are currently experiencing a decline in popularity amidst this “fedora renaissance.”[19]
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Rappel
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Tue, Nov 10 2020, 12:17 pm
Most meforshim say the original commandment against beged Ish is referring to a pr0stitut3 dressing up as a man in order to mix with men.
In halacha, the issue is usually interpreted as "are you trying to pass as a man?"
Hence borrowing DH's rain coat when you don't have one - muttar. Cross-dressing on Purim - assur. Wearing a hat without intending to look like a man - muttar.
Check with your LOR for your personal shittah, but that's the halacha in a broad way.
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amother
Blonde
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Tue, Nov 10 2020, 12:45 pm
amother [ Forestgreen ] wrote: | No.
Begged ish is only an article of clothing that is specifically a man thing.
A hat is unisex. It doesn’t matter if it belongs to a man. |
Whatever you do, make sure you don't wear a jock strap.
Sorry-long hard day. I need to amuse myself
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