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Fri, Aug 09 2019, 10:45 am
I likely bought that ticket for you. I buy one when I see someone getting ticketed and leave it for them.
It’s not a lie. The parking spot was paid for during that time. Why does it matter if you paid for it or I did?
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Fri, Aug 09 2019, 10:47 am
amother [ OP ] wrote: | I know, I know. I just feel like everyone else would do it and I'm almost held back by my own sense of honesty... |
It's between YOU and Hashem.
It's a hard test...but yes, halachically I'm pretty sure it's not allowed.
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Fri, Aug 09 2019, 11:44 am
amother [ OP ] wrote: | I know, I know. I just feel like everyone else would do it and I'm almost held back by my own sense of honesty... |
I wouldn’t do it
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Fri, Aug 09 2019, 12:35 pm
Please post back what your Rav says!
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Fri, Aug 09 2019, 12:36 pm
I think you know the answer, OP. I get how tempting it is, and I know people do this, but just remember that if Hashem meant for you to lose that $35 or whatever it is, He will find another way for you to lose it. You will not be saving yourself anything. Be strong and throw those receipts in the garbage.
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Fri, Aug 09 2019, 12:51 pm
I just called my husband in BMg. He asked a senior poisek there.
He said if the receipt if from the same meter where you were parked then it is 100% muttar.
If it is from another meter, then technically it is a Toiz Akum. But, since you can possibly get in trouble if they realize it wasn't from your meter, don't do it, just pay the ticket..
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Fri, Aug 09 2019, 1:25 pm
naturalmom5 wrote: | I just called my husband in BMg. He asked a senior poisek there.
He said if the receipt if from the same meter where you were parked then it is 100% muttar.
If it is from another meter, then technically it is a Toiz Akum. But, since you can possibly get in trouble if they realize it wasn't from your meter, don't do it, just pay the ticket.. |
Just showed this to my husband - who is admittedly not a senior posek - but has semicha, is learning for many years, has gone through Shas and poskim many times, etc. He doesn’t see how this can be allowed. Both you and the other person were supposed to be paying for your spots (at the same meter) simultaneously. How is it OK to submit a false proof of payment for something you did not pay for? Neither DH nor I get how it is ta’us akum. It is not OK to initiate the ta’us by submitting a false information. It is outright deception.
In any case when it comes to sheker, one is supposed to stay far away (tirchak) from anything that smacks of falsehood, and this is a sheker. Even if there is some technical loophole (of which DH and I are unaware) engaging in borderline/questionable practices is a slippery slope, which often leads to blurring the lines and a reduction in overall honesty. Is it worth compromising your integrity for a few bucks?
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