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Tindle


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Thu, Sep 21 2023, 11:42 am
Hi,
I keep posting in this forum - thank you for being patient and helping out a newbie to skincare and makeup! (I so wish I had gotten involved in this when I was younger....)
I'm in my late, late 30's and have dry skin. I find that no matter what foundation I apply, I get a cakey, crinkly look. I've used MAC, Clinique and Estee Lauder. I recently started putting on primer and moiusturizer on underneath, but hasn't helped much. Is there anyway that I can get that smooth look that I see so many other women with, or I should just forget it? I'd love to have a smooth, natural look but perhaps that's just not going to be? I also don't want a very heavy makeup look.
I recently bought the Estee Lauder. The woman helping me at the store asked if I wanted a natural or radiant look. I automatically said "natural" because I don't like the heavy makeup look but maybe I was wrong? I should've asked her what the difference is, but I didn't.
Thank you!!
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Thu, Sep 21 2023, 11:49 am
Natural vs radiant is the finish. Radiant is a more "shiny" look (sometimes called dewy), while natural is less so (matte would be the least shiny finish.)
I'm a lot younger than you, but I would think a cc cream or tinted moisturizer (depending on coverage level you're looking for) might work better in your situation.
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Tindle


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Thu, Sep 21 2023, 11:57 am
Thank you for explaining - - Will a radiant look, "shiny", look unnatural? I don't have the right words for it, but you know how sometimes women look like their face is "wet" - not wet, really, but in a shiny kind of way?
Also, what does "cc" stand for in a "cc cream"? Can you recommend one that isn't so expensive, so I could try it out without spending a lot of money? What would it need to say - how can I tell that it's the "radiant" and not matte?
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Thu, Sep 21 2023, 12:12 pm
Tindle wrote: | Thank you for explaining - - Will a radiant look, "shiny", look unnatural? I don't have the right words for it, but you know how sometimes women look like their face is "wet" - not wet, really, but in a shiny kind of way?
Also, what does "cc" stand for in a "cc cream"? Can you recommend one that isn't so expensive, so I could try it out without spending a lot of money? What would it need to say - how can I tell that it's the "radiant" and not matte? |
I do think a more radiant finish could be right for you.
Depending on the product and application it can sometimes look unnatural (could be those women are also wearing highlighter or other products that add shine).
Products will usually state the finish somewhere.
I believe cc stands for color correction.
IT Cosmetics is a popular cc cream, but it's pricy. I do see that the travel size (seems to be only available in a few colors as opposed to the whole shade range) is on sale at Target.
https://www.target.com/p/it-co.....79882
Make sure you're moisturizing well day and night.
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Tindle


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Thu, Sep 21 2023, 12:14 pm
Ok, got it!
So iyH will look for a foundation that says "glowy" - I really appreciate the tip.
Is it weird that when I've been to department stores or places like that, that they always gave me foundations that seem like they're for oily skin - because the foundations that you mentioned are the ones that I have! The MAC liquid foundation, the double wear from Estee Lauder, etc...
Maybe they saw that I was an easy, uneducated target and just tried to sell me something expensive?? Oh well, it worked....
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Tindle


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Thu, Sep 21 2023, 12:25 pm
amother cornflower wrote: | Before you try switching foundations, you need to make sure your skin care routine is correct. It will make a huge difference in the way your makeup looks on your skin. You need to be exfoliating well before you moisturize. The moisturizer is much more effective that way. Do not use drying cleansers. I also mix moisturizer or moisturizing serum into my foundation before I put it on.
I’m in my mid thirties and have very dry skin. |
Thank you! I thought that I shouldn't exfoliate too often? That it's not good for the skin to over due it on exfoliating?
My skincare routine is like this:
Night - Every other night, ROC retinol cream and moisturizer on top (I wash my face in the shower with whatever I have, I never really put too much thought into my facial wash/cleanser because I didn't think it would matter so much since it's on my face for so short. Perhaps I'm wrong!??!?!?)
On the alternating nights, I've been putting on the Estee Lauder ANR serum, with Estee Lauder revitalizing supreme cream and eye cream
Day - Cleanse (again, same idea as night), Kleem Vitamin C serum, moisturizer and SPF
What do you use to exfoliate? What would be a dry cleanser? Do you exfoliate morning and night?
I like the idea of mixing in the serum with the foundation! Does that help give a smoother look instead of matte? Sounds like a great hack!
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Tindle


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Thu, Sep 21 2023, 12:28 pm
amother Starflower wrote: | I have dry skin and I wear the loreal hyaluronic acid tinted serum. It's a beautiful finish and my skin feels baby soft when it's on.
It's not full coverage though so I use concealer wherever it's needed |
Thank you for the idea! Also, I appreciate that you suggested a specific product. For someone like me, new to all of this, it's SO overwhelming! I live aborad, but when I was visiting the States in the summer, I bought a bunch of expensive products and now I feel like I need to redo it again!
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Thu, Sep 21 2023, 12:35 pm
Tindle wrote: | Thank you! I thought that I shouldn't exfoliate too often? That it's not good for the skin to over due it on exfoliating?
My skincare routine is like this:
Night - Every other night, ROC retinol cream and moisturizer on top (I wash my face in the shower with whatever I have, I never really put too much thought into my facial wash/cleanser because I didn't think it would matter so much since it's on my face for so short. Perhaps I'm wrong!??!?!?)
On the alternating nights, I've been putting on the Estee Lauder ANR serum, with Estee Lauder revitalizing supreme cream and eye cream
Day - Cleanse (again, same idea as night), Kleem Vitamin C serum, moisturizer and SPF
What do you use to exfoliate? What would be a dry cleanser? Do you exfoliate morning and night?
I like the idea of mixing in the serum with the foundation! Does that help give a smoother look instead of matte? Sounds like a great hack! |
Exfoliation can be irritating if done wrong. Try using the first aid beauty radiance pads at night after cleansing. I find them to be very gentle, I actually use the Dr Dennis Gross pads because I need something stronger but they are pricey. For a gentle cleanser that you can get at the drug store, try cerave.
I would stay away from any matte foundation.
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Tue, Sep 26 2023, 5:16 am
amother Starflower wrote: | I have dry skin and I wear the loreal hyaluronic acid tinted serum. It's a beautiful finish and my skin feels baby soft when it's on.
It's not full coverage though so I use concealer wherever it's needed |
Hi, I just bought this serum today. I usually put on my vitamin C serum first and then moisturizer and then SPF and only then my foundation.
When do you apply this serum (loreal h.a. tinted serum)? As your foundation, meaning after SPF? I thought that anything that's a serum goes on the skin first. But this is tinted, so wouldn't I want it after I put on SPF - but then how will it be effective?
Sorry for so many questions!! I just want to get this right..... Thank you!
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Tue, Sep 26 2023, 5:37 am
amother Honey wrote: | I also have (very) dry skin and found foundations to be cakey or too heavy. I switched to the loreal infallible fresh wear and I love it. Its light but offers full coverage and stays on for a long time.
I also make sure to moisturize minimum twice a day, and that makes a big difference too. |
Thank you for the suggestion! I googled it - it comes in a liquid and powder, I assume you use the liquid? What moisturizer do you use? You put it on under the Loreal Frresh Wear?
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Tue, Sep 26 2023, 6:00 am
Tindle wrote: | Thank you! I thought that I shouldn't exfoliate too often? That it's not good for the skin to over due it on exfoliating?
My skincare routine is like this:
Night - Every other night, ROC retinol cream and moisturizer on top (I wash my face in the shower with whatever I have, I never really put too much thought into my facial wash/cleanser because I didn't think it would matter so much since it's on my face for so short. Perhaps I'm wrong!??!?!?)
On the alternating nights, I've been putting on the Estee Lauder ANR serum, with Estee Lauder revitalizing supreme cream and eye cream
Day - Cleanse (again, same idea as night), Kleem Vitamin C serum, moisturizer and SPF
What do you use to exfoliate? What would be a dry cleanser? Do you exfoliate morning and night?
I like the idea of mixing in the serum with the foundation! Does that help give a smoother look instead of matte? Sounds like a great hack! |
The retinol could be drying your skin out, so maybe see how you go without that.
It cosmetics cc cream is lovely.
Nars sheer glow is good for dry skin but less coverage.
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Tue, Sep 26 2023, 7:08 am
Thank you everyone for all of your explanations and suggestions. It's so nice that everyone wants to help and give ideas and tips. I appreciate each response a lot.
Do you ever get overwhelmed with the miliions of options out there for skincare and makeup?? There is so much trial and error to figuring out what works best for you, and every trial and error also means more money spent!
For all of the women responding with dry skin or very dry skin, could it be just the dry skin? I don't know how old you all are, but I'm in my late 30's, my skin isn't smooth and I've always had freckles (which I don't want to cover with foundation - that would mean using way too much makeup and I don't want that heavy look) , which might also prevent having that smooth look that I'm after....is it possible to have that smooth look past a certain age?
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Tue, Sep 26 2023, 7:33 am
Tindle wrote: | Thank you everyone for all of your explanations and suggestions. It's so nice that everyone wants to help and give ideas and tips. I appreciate each response a lot.
Do you ever get overwhelmed with the miliions of options out there for skincare and makeup?? There is so much trial and error to figuring out what works best for you, and every trial and error also means more money spent!
For all of the women responding with dry skin or very dry skin, could it be just the dry skin? I don't know how old you all are, but I'm in my late 30's, my skin isn't smooth and I've always had freckles (which I don't want to cover with foundation - that would mean using way too much makeup and I don't want that heavy look) , which might also prevent having that smooth look that I'm after....is it possible to have that smooth look past a certain age? |
Higher coverage foundations emphasize texture so as you age and have les smooth skin you're better off with lighter and less coverage foundation which look more glowy and radiant.
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