Are you afraid | Imamother

fleetwood

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 4:35 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

No THIS LEAKY VACCINE can NEVER achieve herd immunity. only lasts a few months. and doesnt stop spreading covid even in beginning.

ONLY NATURAL IMMUNITY CAN ACHIEVE HERD IMMUNITY.

And I am shouting because Fake Science does not admit Natural Immunity exists.

NATURAL IMMUNITY WANES!! People are getting it again!! It's time to admit natural immunity doesn't prevent covid!!!

fleetwood

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 4:37 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

I dont only care about the suicides.

but more people die of COVID if you dont achieve herd immunity through natural immunity.

IN ADDITION to more deaths by suicide caused by lockdown.

First of all..we are not in a lockdown. Second,how many people committed suicide because of lockdown.. Would love to see a source for this...

#BestBubby

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 5:12 pm

SixOfWands wrote:

Studies are based on real life data. What you're talking about is anecdotal evidence.

Of course, you are free not to vaccinate, and to rely on ivermectin should you contract covid. As you know, doctors are free to prescribe both ivermectin and HCQ, notwithstanding their lack of efficacy.

I do note that The American Medical Association (AMA), American Pharmacists Association (APhA), and American Society of Health-System Pharmacists (ASHP) strongly oppose the ordering, prescribing, or dispensing of ivermectin to prevent or treat COVID-19 outside of a clinical trial. https://www.ama-assn.org/press.....id-19

1. Studies are faked to get the results corrupt scientists want. like the fake hydroxycloroquine study where they deliberately gave OVERDOSES to "prove" HCQ is dangerous.

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2. Anecdotal evidence of MILLIONS who were succesfully CURED with Ivermectin is proof.

The FAKE study was withdrawn from the medical journal.

3. No not free to use Ivermectin as government stops doctors and pharmacies from giving it.

4. The AMA and those other organizations say men can give birth.
They are anti science and anti medicine but say whatever the socialist tyrants decree.

miami85

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 6:11 pm

fleetwood wrote:

NATURAL IMMUNITY WANES!! People are getting it again!! It's time to admit natural immunity doesn't prevent covid!!!

Of course natural immunity wanes--it's not only about "natural immunity" in terms of getting it, but why don't more people die from the flu every year? People get the flu even with the flu shot, the issue is that because most people have had it already, once you get it, your body KNOWS what to do, it's called t-cell immunity, meaning your body knows how to fight it so you don't get deathly ill every time. That is why this keeps changing. Remember the "common cold" is in the same family of viruses as Covid-19 and that's probably why the vaccine is not really helpful because it keeps changing, but having had Covid-19 in the past 2 months, and I get that a year ago it was much worse, but NOW it is really not that bad--I was bracing for the worst, but I was really only feeling sick for like a day got the Monoclonal Antibodies and I was "weak and tired" for about a week, but overall unimpressed with the virus. I really wonder how many of these Covid "deaths" are really BECAUSE of Covid or because of "other things". Healthy people still get seriously ill and even die from the flu--I had a colleague on a ventilator for pneumonia due to the flu 3-4 years ago when it was really bad, but we've never had "lockdowns" and "masks ad infinitum" due to the flu--and MOST people do not get the flu every year. Hearing what I have about Omicron it sounds like we've reached "endemic"--it's "mild" and "cold like" and that's what we need. It's now a seasonal virus that we will just have to deal with like colds, flus and other random viruses. Enough of the masks, enough of the mandates lets get on with life. You WILL get it at some point vaccinated or not, you will get treated and MOST people will be fine.

SixOfWands

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 6:13 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

I know, I know. Anyone who disagrees with you is a "socalist" and /or a "tyrant." Socialism, of course, is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. Can you explain what about the AMA is "socialism" or socialist? Indeed, I'd argue that they are the antithesis of socialist. They have obtained monopolistic power over the medical profession and artificially limit the number of doctors in the US to keep supply low and salaries high.

Point by point:

(1) I guess its easy to counter fact-based arguments by simply dismissing all inconvenient evidence out of hand. You don't like a study? Fake. Then just claim that there are hundreds or thousands of people proving you right, they're probably being suppressed, though.

The issues with the safety of HCQ have always been well known. Even before covid.

For covid, as study after study shows, it just plain doesn't work. But there have been no restrictions on its prescription for more than a year, at least in NY. No one is stopping doctors from prescribing. Except their own ethics.

(2) Same for ivermectin. So easy to reject out of hand, then say you have the real information. But that's not convincing.

(3) Please cite all US laws (federal, state or local) that stop doctors from prescribing ivermectin. My google search shows a single insurance company in New Hampshire limiting supplies. But I freely admit that I could have missed. it.

Some pharmacists have refused to fill what they believe are fraudulent prescriptions, or at dangerous levels. I'm of 2 minds on that. On the one hand, pharmacists are professionals, and they should be evaluating prescriptions at some level. On the other, I don't think they have the right to refuse BC Rx, so why should this be different.

(4) Has the AMA said that men can give birth? I've never heard. But obviously you are referring to transgender persons, where a transgender man gives birth. Factually, it happens. You want to insert your politics as to who is a man and who is a woman into that. And you are, of course, entitled to your opinions. It doesn't change the fact that persons who identify as male can, if they have not undergone certain surgeries, and go off hormones, give birth. Nor does it change the need to provide appropriate medical care to such persons.

#BestBubby

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 6:48 pm

Tell me SOW if a person identifies as a cow are they REALLY a cow?

When doctors and scientists deny reality they are no longer doctors and scientists but political hacks who will repeat any nonsense the socialist tyrants order.

And that goes for all their Covid hoaxes and Climate Change hoaxes as well.

amother

Ultramarine

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 9:18 pm

SixOfWands wrote:

Its also being driven by delta.

The better question is how sick people are getting. The answer appears to be that few are hospitalized -- about 84, with 22 in the ICU. No data on who among them are vaccinated.

Florida is starting to increase again. But its experience is different, with more hospitalizations, and the unvaccinated at times filling ICUs. https://www.tcpalm.com/restric.....01%2F https://www.npr.org/2021/08/12.....reads https://www.winknews.com/2021/.....rily/

BTW, Florida has one of the highest vaccination rates in the US, at over 70%.

OMG can you please change your name to Ms. Science????????
And Best Bubby can be Ms. Anti-Science... it's only appropriate

#BestBubby

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 9:25 pm

amother [ Ultramarine ] wrote:

OMG can you please change your name to Ms. Science????????
And Best Bubby can be Ms. Anti-Science... it's only appropriate

Ms. Science was sarcasm.

Anyone who denies natural immunity is Anti Science.

Anyone who believes a man can give birth is anti science.

amother

Ultramarine

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 9:27 pm

Ya know what they say... even a broken clock is right twice a day

#BestBubby

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 9:29 pm

fleetwood wrote:

NATURAL IMMUNITY WANES!! People are getting it again!! It's time to admit natural immunity doesn't prevent covid!!!

VAX IMMUNITY WANES FASTER THAN NATURAL IMMUNITY.

So why is vaxxed. immunity lauded while natural immunity is denied???

This is ANTI SCIENCE. Just bowing down to the Anti Science Socialists.

amother

Pear

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 9:36 pm

I admit to being a little afraid of the name OMNICR*P

Ema of 5

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 9:45 pm

fleetwood wrote:

NATURAL IMMUNITY WANES!! People are getting it again!! It's time to admit natural immunity doesn't prevent covid!!!

So does vaccine induced immunity. Does that mean vaccine immunity doesn’t prevent covid either?

flowerpower

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 9:56 pm

fleetwood wrote:

NATURAL IMMUNITY WANES!! People are getting it again!! It's time to admit natural immunity doesn't prevent covid!!!

Natural immunity wanes. So does the vax. That is why you need a new booster every few weeks. People that get it the second time around are not in huge danger. It’s usually milder than the first time around.

amother

Outerspace

Tue, Nov 30 2021, 9:57 pm

amother [ Pear ] wrote:

I admit to being a little afraid of the name OMNICR*P

Then you should be really glad it isn't the name of anything.

#BestBubby

Wed, Dec 01 2021, 1:45 pm

amother [ Ultramarine ] wrote:

OMG can you please change your name to Ms. Science????????
And Best Bubby can be Ms. Anti-Science... it's only appropriate

I dont think you understand the difference between science and anti science.

One of the greatest Scientists, Richard Feynman, (phycisist who helped invent nuclear bomb) stated:

"I would rather have questions that cannot be answered than ANSWERS THAT CANNOT BE QUESTIONED"

Which Party Forbids questioning their Fake Science?

The Democratic Socialists. One is Forbidden to question the safety or efficacy of Covid vaccine or lose your medical licence.

Forbidden to state the fact there are only two genders or get expelled from school or fired.

Forbidden to deny climate change etc.

Democratic Socialists are ANTI SCIENCE.

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fleetwood

Wed, Dec 01 2021, 2:01 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

VAX IMMUNITY WANES FASTER THAN NATURAL IMMUNITY.

So why is vaxxed. immunity lauded while natural immunity is denied???

This is ANTI SCIENCE. Just bowing down to the Anti Science Socialists.

Where does socialism come into this? Serious question?

fleetwood

Wed, Dec 01 2021, 2:03 pm

Ema of 4 wrote:

So does vaccine induced immunity. Does that mean vaccine immunity doesn’t prevent covid either?

I've never said otherwise. My point was nothing prevents covid..so stop screaming (BB) about the natural immunity!!!

fleetwood

Wed, Dec 01 2021, 2:05 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

Except ..this isn't true. Please give us the name of one...only one... doctor who lost their medical license because they questioned the efficacy of the vaxx. You claim it's everyone...how about we start with just one. Thanks.

#BestBubby

Wed, Dec 01 2021, 2:11 pm

fleetwood wrote:

Where does socialism come into this? Serious question?

Because the Socialists are forbidding questioning the safety and efficacy of Covid Vaccine.

The Socialists are forbidding doctors from Curing Covid with unapproved by Socialists medicines.

#BestBubby

Wed, Dec 01 2021, 2:21 pm

fleetwood wrote:

It is true.

On July 2021 ALL MEDICAL BOARDS which license doctors warned ALL DOCTORS that if they say or spread anything that "sows distrust" of the Covid vaccine they can lose their medical license.

So if any doctor says the vaccine is dangerous or not effective they can lose their license. Doctors must LIE to patients and recommend what they believe is false...or else!

FACT!