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amother
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Post Tue, Mar 12 2024, 9:20 pm
This is probably a crazy thing to say... but I'll put it out there anyway!

When I was in high school I took an anatomy and physiology course. We dissected a fetal pig and it was packaged in something (not formaldehyde but some sort of substitute).

My teacher opened the boxes and I started crying. She had warned us that they look like baby pigs etc and they're pigs not people and we'll learn from this and shouldn't freak out about the pigs. She hadn't even taken out the pigs when I started to cry - and I'm not a big animal person that seeing the pigs would be traumatic. For days any time I had a class in the lab (we used it for different things) I'd start to cry. I would come into science and leave a few minutes later. It would last all day and any time I thought about science I was crying again. It was insane. My teacher did some research and it turns out that the chemical they preserve the pigs in can sometimes cause people to cry for no reason. The recommendation was for me to wear a mask and to put cherry chest rub on my nose so that I couldn't smell the chemical. It worked and I stopped crying in class and randomly too.

I know it's a long shot - but any chance she's been around a chemical like that? My parents were beside themselves and could not figure out what on earth was wrong with me...
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amother
Currant


 

Post Tue, Mar 12 2024, 10:23 pm
amother Blush wrote:
You should get blood work done as a first step


Definitely. Is it possible she has PMDD? Some girls/women can get very low due to hormones.
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rubyred




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 13 2024, 2:02 am
There’s a functional medicine pediatrician in Connecticut that was recommended to me named Elizabeth Bird. She does telehealth visits. I was looking into her for my daughter at one point.
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amother
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Post Wed, Mar 13 2024, 3:57 am
If you are 100% sure that there is no trauma that she is hiding

Please get an MRI

My cousin had years of therapist to therapist, psychiatrist to psychiatrist, and medication to medication with no success for sudden onset depression like this. Eventualy someone sent her to a neurologist and she had a tumor the size of an orange in her brain.
BH it was benign and but she suffered for years until they took it out.

I would possibly call one of the medical askanim for who you can go to who will look into every possible physical cause.

You may need to go specialist by specialist, sound like the pediatrician is in over his head.
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rubyred




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Mar 13 2024, 8:54 pm
amother OP wrote:
I'm a rather mainstream- medical- type, but in this case, I can see that functional medicine might offer more insight.

I'm clueless though. Could you recommend a practitioner?


Functional medicine doctors are MDs that have specialty training. This is their specialty certification program. You can specifically look for an IFM certification pediatrician.

https://www.ifm.org/certificat.....gram/
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amother
Pink


 

Post Thu, Mar 14 2024, 11:18 am
amother Pink wrote:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12035-017-0545-z


OP did you check out the link between infected root canal and depression? Here's an excerpt from the above study:
It is concluded that increased root canal LPS accompanying CAP may cause depression and a lowered quality of life

Here's another study that links endotoxins to depression
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p.....0942/

And here's an excerpt.
The overlap of inflammatory, neural and affective characteristics in endotoxin-challenged healthy subjects and patients suffering from inflammation-associated depression emphasizes that human experimental endotoxemia might serve as a suitable tool in the quest to develop personalized and thereby more effective therapies for major depression.

A study about the advantages of 30 day disinfection treatment vs 7 day (if this is what her endodontist did). The treatment they're referring to is calcium hydroxide intracanal medication.
https://www.nature.com/article.....300-3

Excerpt:
Overall, this SR provides evidence to support that multiple-session disinfection protocols with the placement of Ca(OH)2 intracanal medications are more effective in reducing the levels of endotoxin from root canal infections

Might be worth having an endodontist have a second look at her root canal to see if it's either a failed root canal or if the above applies and can now be fixed.
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