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amother
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Sun, Oct 14 2007, 9:09 pm
I have always loved the name Gavriel and very much want to name my son that, but the rabbi of our kehillah says not to name after angels. My father in law is named after an angel so the family certainly doesn't have a problem with it. I didn't get an explanation from the rabbi, he just said that it's advisable not to so I am curious as to the reasoning behind it? I have friends in the kehillah that have named their sons after angels, but a 'really frum' woman said that frum people don't do so (again I wasn't able to get an explanation as to why.)
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stem
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Sun, Oct 14 2007, 9:13 pm
The names refael and michael are extremely common among the very frum... but I still wouldn't use a name that my rav specifically told me not to use.
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faigie
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Sun, Oct 14 2007, 9:24 pm
so many names are angel names, even Daniel is from the root of an ayim bet shem. the 'el" end names I think , all would be angel names.......I love um they all sound so melodic.
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greenfire
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Sun, Oct 14 2007, 9:29 pm
gavriel is a beautiful name ... I always thought of names of malachim as special ... guess I didn't have enough boys go for it!!!
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Nicole
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Sun, Oct 14 2007, 9:48 pm
Dh AND his brother are named for angels HOWEVER I have heard of this "shittah". If you hold by your rav, it goes without saying that you follow his minhagim. If he says not to name after malachim, there are plenty of other beautiful names out there...
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shalhevet
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 3:34 am
stem wrote: | The names refael and michael are extremely common among the very frum... but I still wouldn't use a name that my rav specifically told me not to use. |
I heard that angels' names that were always used as people's names like Rephael and Michael are not problematic, but names that were not traditionally used (some have become popular recently) shouldn't be used.
I don't think Daniel is the name of a malach. He was a navi. Just because it ends with the same letters doesn't make it the name of a malach.
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mimivan
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 4:10 am
I am also very interested to know the reason...
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Ribbie Danzinger
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 4:31 am
I don't know about naming after angels in general, but Gavriel is the angel of gevurah, might, the root of dinim, so maybe that has something to do with it?
There are many names that end in -el, most of them are not angels' names.
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mimivan
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 4:57 am
Yes, but we still names girls Dinah...
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Ribbie Danzinger
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 5:11 am
True, but Dinah is a name that appears specifically in the Tanach as a girl's name, whereas Gavriel does not. I wouldn't like to argue with Ya'akov Avinu about his choice of name for his daughter ...
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gryp
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 9:19 am
There are some names of angels that we aren't even allowed to say.
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chocolate moose
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 10:10 am
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amother
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 1:35 pm
I heard not to name names like raziel... but names like Gavriel? My husband is Gavriel.
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amother
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 2:41 pm
what's wrong with the name raziel? why shouldn't it be used?
(love that name, btw).
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amother
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 2:45 pm
amother wrote: | what's wrong with the name raziel? why shouldn't it be used?
(love that name, btw). |
Because you arent supposed to name names that are very rare, and the name Raziel is very rare.
Then again, raziel is somewhere on our list of names. Shhh, don't tell...
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faigie
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 2:47 pm
there are SO many names from malachim.. I think daniel is from the shoresh of one of the ayin bet names ... daled nun yud..... id have to go check the list. could be that the navi was named.. from the ayin bet angel name himself!
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amother
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 2:56 pm
you aren't supposed to give names that are very rare? who made that rule?
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amother
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Mon, Oct 15 2007, 3:27 pm
amother wrote: | you aren't supposed to give names that are very rare? who made that rule? |
Its in a book of baby names of mine. It doesnt say not to name uncommon names... Rather, if theres a name thats VERY rare, not to use it. Dunno why though.
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amother
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Tue, Oct 30 2007, 1:54 pm
I hardly think the name Raizel is rare
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amother
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Tue, Oct 30 2007, 2:02 pm
amother wrote: | I hardly think the name Raizel is rare |
Not Raizel,
Raziel.
Rah Zee El.
The name of a malach. Meaning secret of god. Or G-d is my secret.
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