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amother

Pewter

Tue, Apr 30 2024, 10:35 pm

hodeez wrote:

Not sure maybe like 4 months? Window is 11 to 5, but I drink coffees before 11

35 lbs in 4 months? Only IF or also weight loss meds?

amother

Mulberry

Tue, Apr 30 2024, 11:04 pm

amother Amaryllis wrote:

What about intermittent fasting is not the way hashem created the body? The digestive system needs a break from food

The rambam talks about the importance of eating breakfast

hodeez

Tue, Apr 30 2024, 11:36 pm

amother Pewter wrote:

35 lbs in 4 months? Only IF or also weight loss meds?

No meds . I eat healthy, lots of veg, and try to drink lots of water . Also exercise 1 or 2 times daily with friday as my rest day

amother

Peru

Wed, May 01 2024, 3:30 am

amother Antiquewhite wrote:

Agree.
Signed, a PCOSer who has many health children due to low carb and if. About 16 years ago while newly married and off bc for sometime, Dr wanted to start a clomid cycle. But before he suggested I lose some weight . It worked.

Amazing! Can you describe more exactly what you do/ how you incorporate IF and low carb into your diet?
Signed, a PCOSer who is trying to figure out how to lose weight in the best way possible for fertility.

amother

Hydrangea

Wed, May 01 2024, 7:38 am

hodeez wrote:

No meds . I eat healthy, lots of veg, and try to drink lots of water . Also exercise 1 or 2 times daily with friday as my rest day

35 lbs in 4 months is really good! Are you eating low carb as well? On a diet?
What first turned me on to IF was the idea of not having to diet but then I realized it doesn't work if you eat your regular way and just shorten the window. It did become a habit and even though I'm obese and on time number 3 of losing weight since my IF attempt, I still eat between 11-6 not including my morning coffee.

amother

Copper

Wed, May 01 2024, 10:10 am

hodeez wrote:

No meds . I eat healthy, lots of veg, and try to drink lots of water . Also exercise 1 or 2 times daily with friday as my rest day

Twice a day or weekly?

amother

Lotus

Wed, May 01 2024, 10:45 am

tulip3 wrote:

Hope I'm not detailing this post but how did you do IF that it helped your blood sugar? Fasting is terrible, the crashes aren't fun. I'm having those issues and was told to do the opposite-eat every 3 hours. I would love to learn more. Pm me if you can't post here.

I can simply direct you to resources - In podcast or video format, or if you prefer books, the following resources have all of the above, & are where I learned everything I know.

It took a long time for me to figure out what works best for me (for instance shorter fasting, working out fasting, electrolytes, eating wholesome carbs & lots of protein) & additionally one's gender, age, & where one is in their life cycle (ie nearing menstruation, before or post menopause etc) should influence approaches. A 20 year old man, will want to fast differently than a 50 year old woman. And of course if one is diabetic they must seek medical guidance, & one who is pregnant or nursing should not fast.

Gin Stephens - Goes into detail how to get started; can take several weeks for the body to adapt, & then it feels great. Some never do this properly & haven't given it a chance.

Dr. Jason Fung, & colleagues too like Megan Ramos, they focus a lot on diabetes & obesity, but shed light on IF for anyone. I never joined but they have a support system subscription options for more personalized info. & help. Emphasis on longer more therapeutic fasting:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/

Cynthia Thurlow (more gentle approach, a lot geared towards females)

parsley

Thu, May 09 2024, 1:15 pm

I do this. From 12-7
It’s great. I hate having to weigh portions and think about calories. I eat what I want when I’m allowed. I do much better that way. Not such a power struggle.

amother

Saddlebrown

Thu, May 09 2024, 1:27 pm

What is the chiddish here? Nobody wants evidence based research, personal testimonies are so much more fun!

I lost 40 lb in 6 weeks eating nothing but string beans between 1-4 am. Just do that, why follow anything proven with science.

shanie5

Fri, May 10 2024, 4:24 pm

https://www.zoeharcombe.com/20.....eath/

She read the paper and explains what it actually says.

shanie5

Fri, May 10 2024, 4:29 pm

tulip3 wrote:

Eating every 3 hours keeps your insulin levels up. Insulin is the fat storing hormone.
IF keeps insulin down and as a result your body can burn fat instead of sugar. And keeps you level without crahing.
You are crashing because of what you are eating. High carb and high sugar foods cause your blood sugar to go up and then fall down fast-that fall is the crash you are getting. If you eat more protein and fats and less carbs you won't be crashing and you won't be hungry.

tulip3

Fri, May 10 2024, 4:35 pm

shanie5 wrote:

Well I'm not crashing anymore bec I'm eating a protein with a fat and carb every three hours besides btwn breakfast and lunch I'll go longer. I'm not eating sugar or high carb. I eat btwn 730-7 . I still don't understand how fasting and then condensing your food intake into a few hours helps the blood sugar stay consistent.

hodeez

Fri, May 10 2024, 4:54 pm

amother Copper wrote:

Twice a day or weekly?

Daily

shanie5

Fri, May 10 2024, 5:41 pm

tulip3 wrote:

Many people who do IF eat only 2 meals a day. And probably eat less overall because of it.

When fasting the blood sugars aren't rising and falling so unless the person has a specific medical issue, their sugars stay in a normal and healthy range.

amother

Indigo

Sat, May 11 2024, 11:39 pm

amother Mulberry wrote:

Of course it’s not healthy. Hashem didn’t create our bodies to function that way

Says who? They didn't used to eat round the clock like people do now.

Look in the torah, there were 2 meals a day, it seems.

On shabbbos, there is a friday night seuda and a daytime seuda, then seuda shelishis.

Breakfast was invented much later on.

amother

Indigo

Sat, May 11 2024, 11:40 pm

tulip3 wrote:

So many women on this site have blood sugar issues and hormone imbalances. Intermittent fasting makes bigger problems for that crowd. Women past menopause is a different story.

Nope, many people were able to REVERSE their diabetes by using Intermittent fasting.
Jason Fung has a lot on that.

amother

Bronze

Sun, May 12 2024, 9:37 am

I do IF for years now, I had bleeding the whole time. I was diagnosed with something, forgot the name now. Two specialists told me to remove my uterus. Once I started fasting (and on BC) the bleeding has gone away. On the minute I stop fasting for more than 2 months, the bleeding comes back. So for me, this was life-changing. I do it for my health and will keep fasting till 120. But I do not lose any weight on it. just keeping me stable. (on yom tov when I don't fast, that's when I gain..)

Chana Miriam S

Sun, May 12 2024, 9:52 am

amother Mulberry wrote:

Of course it’s not healthy. Hashem didn’t create our bodies to function that way

Actually, Hashem did design our bodies to function this way. What do you think happens when there is no carby food available? Our bodies burn fat. Ketones provide energy so we can continue looking for food. It could be argued ( and it’s a strong argument) that without this important metabolic pathway, humans would have completely died out in times of starvation. Ketosis is not a pathological problem, it’s a second, valid metabolic pathway. Before we farmed and later had processed food, it’s very likely our ancestors mostly burned ketones.

The way we eat today is contrived. It’s a social thing that our society evolved like this. In the past, pre electricity, people worked and ate during daylight and slept in the dark. There was a natural fast that lasted as long as the sleep period did which of course is dependent on the time of year. You could. It just flick on a light and get a snack at 2 am. People fasted.

In the past two hundred or so years, we have overall a more constant supply of food. Our health and obesity levels have consistently declined.

Intermittent fasting has been shown to help in many different chronic disease management situations but also even people who don’t eat low carb but intermittent fast have shown great rises in mental clarity and health levels. If you don’t eat for longer periods ( even 12 hours) your body is less likely to be insulin resistant when you do eat. Insulin, a growth hormone, drives a huge number of disease processes in the body. Being resistant to insulin is highly problematic for human health.

There is a significant body of peer reviewed research showing this in addition to patient reports (which are not considered peer reviewed but ARE important ).

To understand how this works, read the diabetes code by Dr. Jason Fung. He explains this well and in terms a lay person can understand.

Chana Miriam S

Sun, May 12 2024, 10:00 am

tulip3 wrote:

Because ketones take over. But also because if you’re not eating sugar or excessive carbohydrates which are literally the cause of hypoglycaemia and a sign that if you aren’t already, you’re likely http become insulin resistant, then your blood sugar will stay more stable and not fall as excessively as it does with excess carbohydrates.

Intermittent fasters may eat excessive carb but when it runs out they switch to ketones which inherently keep blood glucose stable because you’re not eating carby food during that time.

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