Eczema - Vaccines?

trixx

Mon, May 06 2019, 11:16 pm

amother [ OP ] wrote:

I think only the hep-b, which most don't give immediately. Other than that, first set of shots is usually at 2 months . In our case, my baby was pretty sick at 2 months old (so obviously x shots) and developed eczema shortly after that.

This is very telling.
Was baby on antibiotics? Please see my above comment about eczema being an autoimmune disease caused by leaky gut.

amother

Linen

Mon, May 06 2019, 11:36 pm

amother [ White ] wrote:

don't babies get there 1st shots rather early like either immediately or at 2 weeks? Is it actually possible to develop the excema before getting shots?

My baby was covered in eczema at just over three months. Had some spots of it at 2 already. Vit K at birth (NY Mandate) and abx in NICU. Im sure some of that is to blame. Also had dairy formula at the beginning and it never agreed with her. I would hear her stomach going insane while feeding it but had nothing else in hospital and baby wouldnt nurse. I wish I would have known about Elecare then. Im positive that all these things are contributing factors. We love her anyways.

trixx

Tue, May 07 2019, 12:06 am

amother [ Linen ] wrote:

Yep
Yep
Leaky gut

(vitamin K should be fine)

amother

Green

Tue, May 07 2019, 12:50 am

amother [ Linen ] wrote:

Right!!!!! mY dR. IS CLUELESS

Not all docs read the inserts. Not just vaccines. I had this with meds for DH. When we read the side effects at home and I confronted doc about a specific side effect I was concerned about, he mumbled some sort of excuse but agreed with me that we shouldn't continue the protocol and he tried to figure out a new med plan.
PS. I dropped the doc and found another one I felt more comfortable with, and who I felt comfortable trusting with 'the fine lines'.

amother

Green

Tue, May 07 2019, 3:50 am

amother [ Dodgerblue ] wrote:

Wow, I never thought it may be related.
If my son never had eczema and two months after the MMR vaccine he developed eczema. That's a result?

Very possible. I'd say 50/50, but I think many others will say for sure and some will say never. The real question is what should be done now, and how to help your son? How old is he?

amother

Dodgerblue

Tue, May 07 2019, 3:54 am

amother [ Green ] wrote:

Very possible. I'd say 50/50, but I think many others will say for sure and some will say never. The real question is what should be done now, and how to help your son? How old is he?

He is 3.

JoyInTheMorning

Tue, May 07 2019, 4:24 am

This thread borders on the ridiculous. Look at the numbers, imamothers. Ten to twenty percent of all infants have eczema. See https://www.stanfordchildrens......1675. If all those children didn't get vaccinated, we'd lose community immunity. That would be devastating. It is irresponsible for any doctor to unilaterally exempt a baby from vaccination due to eczema.

I had eczema throughout childhood, from the time I was five. It's not great, but it's a whole lot better than getting measles or meningitis or diphtheria or pertussis. Eczema can be managed; I am not bothered much by it anymore. It's possible that I outgrew eczema, like half of all children do, but I think it's more likely that as I grew up, I realized what did and didn't irritate my skin and I became meticulous in avoiding irritants. I try to use only Basis soap or Cetaphil; I wear gloves when I wash dishes; I don't wear nail polish; I avoid wool and nylon. Rarely, I get an outbreak; if I'm quick to notice it, which I almost always am, I treat it with a drop of cortisone cream or ointment, and I'm good.

There is no reason to think that vaccines will cause eczema any more than illness would. If anything, illnesses stress the immune system more than vaccines do.

JoyInTheMorning

Tue, May 07 2019, 4:34 am

amother [ Dodgerblue ] wrote:

Wow, I never thought it may be related.
If my son never had eczema and two months after the MMR vaccine he developed eczema. That's a result?

I truly hope this was an ironic post. Two months after a vaccine, your child developed eczema and you think it was caused by the MMR? I'm sure other things happened two months after your child got the MMR. Maybe your child started saying more words, or maybe he started walking up and down steps. Do you think that was also caused by the MMR? Of course not.

In general, there's no reason to think that B after A means that A caused B unless we know of a causal mechanism between A and B. We don't know of any such causal mechanism between the MMR and eczema.

JoyInTheMorning

Tue, May 07 2019, 4:36 am

amother [ Green ] wrote:

Very possible. I'd say 50/50, but I think many others will say for sure and some will say never. The real question is what should be done now, and how to help your son? How old is he?

And where do you get these precise numbers -- 50/50 odds that eczema was caused by MMR -- amother Green? Is this just your way of saying that you have absolutely no idea?

amother

Tan

Tue, May 07 2019, 7:19 am

amother [ Linen ] wrote:

Why are you so sure you know what caused it? I wrote earlier that my baby was suffering from eczema at three weeks, with none of the factors you mentioned. No abx, no vaccines, no formula.

meme6

Tue, May 07 2019, 8:03 am

amother [ Dodgerblue ] wrote:

Wow, I never thought it may be related.
If my son never had eczema and two months after the MMR vaccine he developed eczema. That's a result?

Two months later getting eczema is not from the shot it’s way to long after

Metukah

Tue, May 07 2019, 9:13 am

JoyInTheMorning wrote:

Ita with this whole post. The bolded sums it up.

amother

Cerise

Tue, May 07 2019, 9:46 am

amother [ OP ] wrote:

Williamsburg Pediatrics. They have offices in Williamsburg, BP and Monsey. But like I said, multiple practitioners with different opinions.

Could you say which doc said to wait? I use them too, but prob have yet to meet this doc...

amother

Tue, May 07 2019, 10:00 am

amother [ Oak ] wrote:

I smell a peach, OP or respondents.

I am pro vax. All my family (with the exception of the child in question) are fully vaccinated. I hope to get this child vaccinated one day as well. I did not ask whether vaccines cause eczema. My child already has eczema (and nobody else in my family has eczema bh even though fully vax). I just wanted to know if there is a valid reason to DELAY vaccinations for THIS PARTICULAR CHILD.
As far as the respondents go, I can't speak for others. But I do appreciate the posters who answered my question.
Thank you all.

forgetit

Tue, May 07 2019, 10:04 am

amother [ Dodgerblue ] wrote:

He is 3.

That's hard. Many who have it as babies out grow it by that age. I BH never had to deal with it, but my relative did. She took her baby to a specialist in Upstate NY who advised her on dietary changes for herself since she was nursing. For all those thinking alternative treatment bec. I said the word diet, absolutely not. I can't remember the title, but this is board certified specialist, and my relative had Medicaid at the time and the specialist accepted it, so definitely not alternative. She did see results, but slowly. I think alot of the changes included Omega 3 (she got them from food, not vitamins), cod liver oil, and vitamin D. But I really wasn't very involved so I don't know the details. If you'd like me to find out more about who this specialist is pm me as I may not check this post again.
She also mentioned that she found her own child and other moms she spoke to mentioned summer alleviating the symptoms a bit, and she tied that to vitamin D, but that's just her anecdotal evidence. Wonder if anyone here had the same.