I davened but wasnt answered

amother

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 1:59 pm

I davened and cried and wept and pleaded with hashem for something.

intense intense tefillos.

I wasnt answered and I see its totally for my benefit even if I am still going through this hardship.

my question is.

do all these tefillos go somewhere? did hashem put it away for something else?
or did I get answered but with a no?

wife101

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 2:03 pm

amother OP wrote:

My understanding is that NO tefilla goes to waste AND you can be told no.

amother

Blue

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 2:06 pm

amother OP wrote:

Yes, exactly. I saw this in Praying with Fire 1, in the name of the Steipler Gaon:

" There is no such thing as a sincere prayer that goes unanswered. unanswered... If it's not answered today, it can be answered tomorrow. If not tomorrow, then in a week...a month...a year.... a hundred years or more. If not .. in your lifetime, then for your children, or for your children's children..."

amother

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 2:16 pm

amother Blue wrote:

I know this. and thanks for confirming.

but if it wasnt good for me to be answered?

its not as if hashem saw that in future I would need this
tefilla even more badly than now so it gets put away for a better oppertunity even though
it would be good for me to helped now too.

here it wouldnt be good for me to have been answered.

so does it get put away?

thats why I also dont understand why hashem had to tell moshe to stop davening.
if its not good for the person hashem wont answer and put away the tefillos?

amother

Babypink

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 2:17 pm

I davened that it wasn't a miscarriage but it was.
Idk what happened to that. Did it apply to my next pregnancy? Idk I'm not hashem.

amother

Chestnut

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 7:33 pm

Every tear is counted. Every tear means something. No tear goes unseen. Every pain is shared by Hashem. I don’t know where the tears go. In the future we’ll find out where each of our tears went. Because there’s no zman to Hashem (not a concept we can understand) a tear from the present can even sometimes work on something from the past. Ultimately we’ll know it wasn’t wasted or ignored.

amother

Seagreen

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 7:40 pm

I’ve been davening my entire life for a specific request.

It’s been 30 years of actual davening for the same thing. And I don’t mean causal davening. I mean begging, crying, balling my eyes out kind of davening. I took upon myself so many kabalas as a child too. And it’s not asking for a supernatural thing at all. It’s the most simple request thats causing me so much pain for my entire life.

I have yet to be answered. The despair at this point is indescribable

amother

Mulberry

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 7:47 pm

amother Babypink wrote:

I davened that it wasn't a miscarriage but it was.
Idk what happened to that. Did it apply to my next pregnancy? Idk I'm not hashem.

Me too. It didn’t help for the next pregnancy either. Miscarried that as well. I feel like all my begging went to waste. I will never know what happened to my tefillos op. Never in this world. It feels very unanswered and forsaken.

#BestBubby

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 7:51 pm

A recent widow once asked Rabbi Aryeh Levin ztl

"I cried and davened so hard for my husband to recover, but my husband died.

What happened to all my tears all my prayers?
Was it all a waste?"

Reb Aryeh replied,

"After 120 years, you will be shown how when an evil decree against the Jews was proposed, Hashem took some of your tears and the decree was nullified."

The widow burst into tears of comfort. From time to time she would ask rabbi levin,

"Please tell me again what Hashem does with my tears.:

Lemonade 2323

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 7:51 pm

amother OP wrote:

I know. but I want to know if the tefillos get stored.

Yes 100%

If I didn't know this and believe I don't think I'd have any Emuna.

It comforts me that when things go well it's my grandfather's tefillos maybe..

Nothing is random. When my tefillos (seemingly) don't get answered I'm comforted that they're in storage.
May they bring comfort to my grandchildren.

Edited for spelling.

#BestBubby

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 7:53 pm

amother OP wrote:

I know. but I want to know if the tefillos get stored.

Yes, The teffilos will help you. If not for this matter than for another matter.

You won't know till after 120 how much you were saved from other tzoros because of your tefillos.

amother

Brown

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 7:55 pm

amother Babypink wrote:

I davened that it wasn't a miscarriage but it was.
Idk what happened to that. Did it apply to my next pregnancy? Idk I'm not hashem.

Maybe that you survived the miscarriage. You’re still here.

That’s what I tell myself.

amother

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 8:03 pm

#BestBubby wrote:

beware of my outright selfishness.

I want the tefillos for myself.

amother

Blue

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 8:06 pm

The longest prayer recorded in the Torah is Avraham's prayer for Sedom to be spared. Yet it was destroyed. Did those prayers matter at all? Why were they even recorded for posterity?

I heard that Avraham's tefillah only managed to save Lot. But through what happened with Lot being saved, Mashiach was born. (מצאתי דוד עבדי. איפה מצאתיו? בסדום.)

So perhaps the prayer was more valuable than it appeared to Avraham at the time.

singleagain

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 8:08 pm

amother Blue wrote:

This is a beautiful connection. Thank you.

amother

Fuchsia

Thu, Nov 30 2023, 8:11 pm

amother OP wrote:

beware of my outright selfishness.

I want the tefillos for myself.

I once heard, tho don't quote me because I can't remember who told me, that one own tefillos are the best best bc they are so heartfelt.
Only the person themselves know their own situ.

So no you're not selfish.

This is something I once heard, it is not a bashing thread against going to a for a brocho. Or to a kever.
I do both.